Re: DoD News Briefing - Speicher
Date: February 26, 2004
"United
States Department of Defense.
News Transcript
Presenter: Army Lt. Gen. Ricardo S. Sanchez Thursday, February 26, 2004
Combined Joint Task Force 7 Briefing from Baghdad
Sanchez: Its great to be back in front
of you. I look forward to the questions. Let me start out by giving you
a brief opening statement.
First of all, I would like to express my sincere condolences
to the families of the Iraqi security forces, the innocent Iraqi civilians and
coalition service members who have lost their lives while helping to establish
freedom here in Iraq.
Today, former regime loyalists and terrorists continue
to attack the citizens of Iraq, the Iraqi security forces and our coalition
forces. Those who attempt to prevent a free and democratic state will
definitely fail. We remain undaunted. Despite the attacks, the list
of Iraqis volunteering to join security forces continues to grow and the training
facilities for these forces are full and continue to expand. Attacks designed
to intimidate Iraqis from serving in the Iraqi security forces, instead, have
stirred patriotism among young Iraqis and they continue to show up at a rate
of four to one for every billet that we have available. Police and army
training classes are filled to capacity, both in Jordan and here in the country.
The Iraqi Civil Defense Corps, which has 23 battalions this week, will have
13 more battalions by April, and we expect no problems in being able to man
and to train those units. The result is that offensive operations now
increasingly include joint and independent Iraqi security force operations across
the country.
Earlier this month, one particular event provided a
very clear example of the progress that is being made in Iraqi security force
capabilities. On Sunday the 15th of February members of the national Iraqi
police services Emergency Response Unit tracked down and arrested number
41 of the deck of 55's most wanted, Mohammed Zimam al-Razaq -- a former Ba'ath
party regional chairman. The arrest followed an investigation and a series of
coordinated raids independently conducted by the Iraqi police service.
This achievement is a milestone in the continuing development of Iraq's security
forces.
Meanwhile, the shape and structure of coalition forces
continues to change. We're in the midst of transitioning our forces, an
immensely complex task that is being undertaken with few problems up to this
point.
In the south, the transition to Multinational Division
Southeast and Multinational Division South is complete and the forces are continuing
to provide a safe and secure environment throughout their zones of operation.
In the north, the 101st Airborne Division has returned
to the States and it was replaced by Task Force Olympia, which features our
Stryker armored vehicle, which is ideally suited for the missions required of
them in this area. In addition, the coalition is now more diverse with
the addition of Japanese units in Multinational Division Southeast. In
their first deployment into a combat environment since World War II, the Japanese
soldiers reported to the Tamawah (sp) area to provide much-needed medical assistance,
water supplies and reconstruction of public facilities.
Now in the coming months, the 82nd Airborne, the 4th
Infantry and the 1st Armored Division will rotate out of the country and redeploy
back to their home stations, and the 1st Marine Expeditionary Force (minus),
the 1st Infantry Division, and the 1st Cavalry Division will deploy into the
country and take their places, in addition to numerous other rotations of non-U.S.
coalition elements.
During this ongoing process that will run through the
May time frame, the size of the coalition forces will decrease from approximately
130,000 troops to about 110(,000) to 115,000.
As Iraqi security forces become more numerous and capable,
more of the security responsibilities will be shouldered by them. However,
the coalition will remain shoulder-to-shoulder with the Iraqi security forces
in a partnership to maintain a safe and secure environment. Any organization
that interprets the increasing Iraqi role in the security mission as a sign
that coalition forces are either losing their resolve or moving to remote bases
to avoid casualties will be making a deadly error. We will remain as staunch
partners with the Iraqi security forces until our mission of bringing security
and stability to this country is accomplished.
In the area of civil military operations, the coalition
continues to invest heavily, on behalf of the Iraqi people, in projects aimed
at restoring critical infrastructure and public services throughout the country.
To date, we have used the Commanders' Emergency Response Program funds to support
more than $182 million on over 17,500 projects throughout the country.
This has included over $8 million on health projects, $18 million on 2,200 reconstruction
projects, and about $35 million on education initiatives.
Now let me conclude on that note and tell you that
the coalition's military focus, along with our Iraqi security partners, remains
committed to establishing and maintaining a safe and secure environment for
the people of Iraq. Though we can expect some setbacks as we move forward,
the tide of change is now inevitable as Iraq moves forward to a sovereign and
united nation, which protects and defends the rights of its citizens to live
in freedom and prosperity.
I'll now go ahead and take your questions. Yes,
sir?
Q: General, Gregor Mayer from the German Press
Agency, DPA. General, the November 15 agreement foresees the closure of a status
of forces agreement by the end of March. Now we have a growing desire
on the Iraqi side of having this postponed after the change of authority at
the end of June. Are you aware of this, and is this posing problems to
the coalition forces if there, let's say, is a gap between handing over authority
and not being any more occupation force, and just later getting a status of
forces agreement?
Sanchez: No, absolutely not. The November
15 agreement talked about achieving some sort of a security arrangement with
the Iraqi people, not necessarily and specifically a SOFA, as you described.
And at this point in time, we do not see any sort of an issue with us continuing
to operate here in the country. It is still to be determined in the negotiations
that are ongoing what those security arrangements will be, and that is in the
process of being discussed in the discussions that are taking place at this
time. It is not a gap in our ability to hand over authority by the 30th
of June.
Yes, sir?
Q [Through interpreter.]: General, you have just
talked about up to the subject of changing the or the moving out of the coalition
forces and giving authority to the Iraqi police and to the Iraqi security forces.
So do I understand that giving -- of course you are handing out sovereignty
to the Iraqis after the 30th of June, that you are not going to withdraw from
the centers of the cities? Are the coalition forces going to be situated in
the middle of the country, in the middle of the cities, or are they going to
go to the boundaries? So does this form any threat, specifically if U.S.
forces are going to be inside the country after giving the sovereignty and handing
over the sovereignty to the Iraqis? Does this form a threat to the Iraqis?
Can you just give us your view?
Sanchez: The concept of local control that we
have described in the past calls for us to move from inside of the cities to
forward operating bases or camps that are on the boundaries of the cities or
outside of the major population areas. The basic criteria that allows
us to do this is the ability to hand over law and order missions -- or responsibilities,
rather -- to the Iraqi security forces that are operating in that urban area.
The condition is that they are capable and credible enough to be able to assume
those responsibilities. And therefore, as you look across the country,
we will evolve into local control at varying speeds in the different parts of
the country.
There are some parts of the country today that are
already under the local control of Iraqi security forces, but as a specific
example let me talk about Baghdad. Baghdad will, in fact, have the 1st
Armored Division and the 1st Calvary Division that will move to their operating
bases on the outskirts of the city. And we will, in fact, turn over the
responsibility to the security forces inside of the city, but that does not
mean that we are not conducting operations in the city. We will have joint
coordination centers where we will have the coalition forces, the Iraqi security
forces all co-located to synchronize and coordinate and accomplish the tasks
that are necessary to continue to provide security and stability to the city.
We will still conduct operations in the city in coordination with the Iraqi
security forces, and we will have quick reaction forces that are available to
reinforce the Iraqi police, the Civil Defense Corps or the army as required
and to operate with them jointly in the event that the mission requires significantly
more capability than what they have available to them at that time.
Q: (In Arabic.)
Sanchez: Go ahead and follow up. Go ahead.
Q [Through interpreter.]: After you just hand
over the stability to the Iraqis on 30th June, so you will go out of the country
as attacks come to Baghdad. So as forces, you will be out of the country
at the middle of Baghdad instability. Can you just give us a date that
the coalition forces will be transmitted or they are going to go outside Baghdad
after exactly the 30th of June?
Sanchez: The exact date -- our goal, what we
are shooting for is to have our forces in these base camps that are on the outskirts
of Baghdad by the time that the 1st Cavalry Division comes into the country,
which is in the middle to the latter part of April. And we will have established
our coordination and our linkages to the Iraqi security forces. But let
me reemphasize that this does not mean that we are not in the cities.
We are still going to be conducting patrols. We're still going to be working
with the police and the Civil Defense Corps in the cities to provide the security
and law and order.
Okay? Yes, sir?
Q [Through interpreter.]: Ahmed Zareybi (ph)
from -- (Inaudible.). As the main commander for the joint forces, are
you going to be participating in the elections now? And if you say no,
why?
Sanchez: Okay. I'm not sure I really understood
your question. Your question, I believe, was, as the commander of coalition
forces, will we be participating in the elections?
Q: (In Arabic.)
Sanchez: Can you clarify that a little bit, please?
Q [Through interpreter.]: Regarding because you
are the commanding forces of -- are you going to be with the elections of --
Second Interpreter: Okay, sir. His question
is that, as being the commander in chief of the military, so are you with the
idea of having election at the time being, with the idea to have the election
at the time being in Iraq? Is it possible or suitable enough to have the
election right now despite the security situation in Iraq?
Sanchez: Okay. I think your question is
whether I believe, as the coalition force commander, if it's possible to hold
elections. I think the answer I have to give you is that I have to defer
to the United Nations' position and Ambassador Bremer's stated positions on
the conduct of elections.
As far as the security conditions across the country,
I'd have to tell you that the security conditions today are considerably better
than what they were 60 days ago. In an -- on an average day today, we
are encountering about 18 to 20 engagements across the entire country. And we
have a significantly improved security situation in the country, and the security
situation that we're currently experiencing is manageable for whatever governance
processes need to take place.
Yes, sir?
Q [Through interpreter.]: Baram Hamid Arin (sp),
from the Bashakayeh (sp) newspaper. How do you see the capability of the
Iraqi forces after the coalition forces get pulled out of Iraq? Would
[they] be able to secure the country by themselves?
Sanchez: How do I see the capability of the Iraqi
security forces and will they have the capability to secure the country by themselves
is the question? And correct me if that's not correct, if that's not right.
First of all, the capability of the Iraqi security
forces today is growing. And it is a capability that we continue to build
across the entire country for both -- for all of the police, the Civil Defense
Corps forces and for the new Iraqi army.
Today we have only three battalions of the new Iraqi
army trained and fielded. I already gave you the numbers for the ICDC
and the police. We continue to train the professional police force, and
that will take us some time into 2005.
The army will in fact be fielded. We believe
that the program we have in place is on track and that we can field the 27 battalions
and three light motorized divisions by the October time frame. And then
there will be a requirement for us to continue to train and to build the capability
of those divisions to provide external security for the country.
The ICDC -- the 45 battalions that we will have on
line will in fact be there by the end of April and May time frame, and they
will be capable and continue to grow over time.
In terms of their capability to secure the country
by themselves when the coalition forces pull out, that is exactly the objective
that we have. The timelines to do that are yet undetermined, and the Iraqis
will have to make some decisions, once they establish their own sovereign entities,
as to the eventual end state of the Civil Defense Corps, the end state and size
and type of army they will have, and the types of security arrangements that
they might have to or want to engage with the international community.
Yes, sir? In the back.
Q: Alistair Wanklin (sp) -- Fox News. Two
questions.
The Senate Intelligence Committee in the past couple
of days discussed the case of the missing serviceman Michael Scott Speicher.
Can you tell us, please, whether investigations on your side continue into his
disappearance and whether there's anything to tell us on --
The second question is, can you tell us whether anything
further came out of the death of Zarqawi's lieutenant in Habbaniya a couple
days ago?
Sanchez: You said Michael Speicher, correct?
Q: Yeah, Michael Speicher.
Sanchez: Yes. The Iraqi Survey Group continues
to work on Michael Speicher's case. On every opportunity or every clue
they get, they follow up on that and we continue to search for him. In
terms of the follow-on to the Zarqawi lieutenant, at this point what you've
seen in the press and what we have released is about what we can tell you.
Yes, sir?
Q: Patrick McDonald from the Los Angeles Times.
General, could you elaborate a little bit on what the role of the U.S. military
is going to be post-sovereignty handover. I mean, when you're kind of
moving out of the cities, are you essentially going to be providing backup?
I mean, are you going to be doing the primary intelligence gathering?
Who's going to be coming up with ideas for missions? Is it going to be
a secondary role or a primary role?
Sanchez: The answer is yes. (Laughter.)
And let me elaborate a little bit. Primary and secondary -- where it is
that we have been able to hand off local control, we will be in a secondary
role. And we will be there to provide quick reaction forces and still
continue to operate with those Iraqi security forces every single day. Where
we have not been able to build the capacities of the Iraqi secure forces to
the level where they can accomplish the task on their own, then we'll be there
with them as partners conducting those operations.
We suspect that on the 1st of July the conditions in
the country will still be unstable to an extent. We expect that we will
still have to be conducting offensive operations to defeat terrorists and possibly
some anti-coalition forces that will still be adamant about continuing their
quest. And we will be able to conduct unilateral operations given the
intelligence and conduct those precise intel-driven offensive ops to destroy
them.
In the back.
Q: (Name inaudible.), CNN. We've got --
we've heard reports that there was an explosion in a market in the center of
the city Baqubah. Do you have any information about this? If so,
what happened?
Sanchez: No, ma'am, I did not have that when
I walked in here. We can check in the process and try to get you something
before the end of the conference.
Q: Yes, please. Thank you.
Sanchez: Yes, sir, in the back?
Q: Two small questions, General. Luke Pfeiffer,
German television. Are coalition forces involved in any means in the security
operation ahead of the Ashura events at the 10th of Muharram, which is next
week in Karbala? And linked to this question, do you have any control
about the influx of foreign pilgrims at this stage? We meet a lot of Iranian
pilgrims in the city here. Do you have any figures? Is this a controlled
influx, or do you have any ways of controlling this?
Sanchez: The answer to the first question, whether
coalition forces are involved in the security for Ashura, definitely. We have
been working with the governors and the security forces in Najaf, in Karbala,
here in Baghdad and some of the other major cities to be able to assist in providing
that security. We have had meetings with the leadership, and in Karbala
there's a robust plan that is synchronized and coordinated to be able to provide
security. It is a concern for us, especially given the Zarqawi letter
that talks about creating instability and hopefully the conditions for civil
war between the Sunni and the Shi'a. We have paid special attention to
this, but we think we've been working closely enough with Iraqi security forces
that we can provide reasonable security. That doesn't mean that we're
going to prevent every incident from occurring.
In terms of the influx of Iranians, that does continue.
There is no agreement at this point between Iran and Iraq as to the numbers
that can flow into the country, and that is a challenge that we're facing today.
All right?
Q: A little follow-up. So there's no control
at the borders?
Sanchez: Well, the --
Q: You have no figures, actually, of how many
people are entering?
Sanchez: No. I could not stand up here
and tell you that we have positive figures on the numbers of Iranians that have
come in from the Iranian border. When you say there is no control, there
is no total control. There are some ports of entry on the Iranian border
that are being manned and run by the border police -- the Iraqi border police
and the border enforcement, but that does not imply that there is total control
of the borders. And therefore, there are some areas where they can come
across undetected and unaccounted for.
Yes, sir?
Q [Through interpreter.]: From LBC. Do
you have any intention as to have NATO participate with the coalition forces?
If the answer is yes, how would be the process? And are they going to
be the leaders, and are you going to put the coalition forces under the leader
of NATO?
So can you also tell us that, regarding the dissemination
of the coalition forces inside the country, if there is any programs or schedules
for those people, because in fact they are making the chaos inside the country
and too much traffic jams that annoy the Iraqi people while they are in the
streets with their patrols and tanks everywhere. So can you just give
or try to schedule those people or try to organize them not to annoy the Iraqi
people in the streets with their tanks over there?
Sanchez: The price of freedom. (Laughs.)
First of all, on NATO, at this point in time there
are no plans for NATO to come into the country to take over the mission here
in the country. Discussions and long-term plans are -- you know, clearly
those are options for the future. The decisions have to be made at the
international level, at the national command authority level in coordination
with NATO and Iraq. And at this point in time, there is no positive plan
that is in place.
In terms of the traffic jams and the chaos, I think
we're all part of the chaos out there, not just the military. And we will
continue to conduct our operations as required. We are, in fact, minimizing
the track vehicle movement. Part of the process of moving to local control
and moving to the outskirts is an attempt to minimize all of our traffic inside
of the cities. That's a side benefit to that. But clearly, as I
stated before, when required in order to bring security and stability to the
country, we will conduct our operations to kill or capture anti-coalition forces.
But we are working very hard to work together with the Iraqi people to minimize
some of the annoyances that are out there.
Yes, ma'am?
Q: (Name and affiliation inaudible.) -- Spain.
General, every time that there is a bomb attack recently -- it happened in Iskandariyah,
it happened in Hillah, it happened also in the recruiting center here in Baghdad
-- large amounts of the population seem to be convinced that coalition forces,
American forces, to be precise, are responsible for that. No matter how
preposterous that may be, why do you think this happens that the people believe
that? And is that something that worries you?
Sanchez: I don't know. I don't know why
the people think that. What I do know is that it's not true, that it's
rumors. And I do know that we have to counter that. And I do know
that we do, in fact, go out and talk to people and show them that it is not
the American forces or the coalition forces that are doing that; and that it
is, in fact, a terrorist element that is out there conducting those attacks
against their own people; that Zarqawi is operating, that Ansar al-Islam and
elements of al Qaeda are operating to kill Iraqis, and other Iraqis are conducting
operations to kill Iraqis; and that it's not the coalition that is here to create
instability and to get our soldiers killed.
So you know, we all have to work together to ensure
that the people understand that we're about partnership, we're about freedom
and democracy and peace and stability and security for everybody here in this
country.
In the back, on the right. You, sir. Yes,
sir?
Q [Through interpreter.]: Abrahim Saradjak (sp),
(Name inaudible.) Daily. Mr. General, there was a hundred former
Ba'ath -- (Inaudible.) -- and intelligence for the army and media in Syria.
Is the United States afraid that might form some kind of terrorist organization,
which is against the area, create some kind of fear against the area?
Sanchez: Explain that. Restate the question
again, please.
Interpreter: Okay. What he's saying --
that there is ex- elements for the ex-regime, ex-intelligence officers.
They live in Syria. They have presence in Syria. Some of them are
businessmen. Are you guys afraid that these people might get together and form
kind of terrorist organization against the U.S. and maybe create some kind of
operation against Iraq, terrorists organizing in Iraq?
Sanchez: Clearly, the existence of former Ba'ath
Party intelligence and other operatives in countries either surrounding the
region or in other international locations are a concern in terms of their willingness
and their ability to support instability here in the country.
Syria in particular has shown that they are not totally
committed to stopping the instability that is being exported out of Syria into
Iraq. They've got to do a much better job of shutting down their borders
to keep foreigners from coming in, to keep some of the terrorists from flowing
in, and preventing them from staging inside of their territory.
It is a concern to us that there may be former regime
elements that are outside of the country continuing to foment instability and
bringing it into the country against the Iraqi people and against the coalition.
All the way to the right.
Q: Richard Beaston (sp) from the Times.
General, I was wondering if you could comment on a report in the American press
this morning that 112 sexual assaults occurred against American servicewomen
in the last 18 months in Central Command alone. I was wondering how many
servicewomen have been attacked in Iraq and whether you consider that -- really
consider it a serious problem.
Sanchez: Well, any violation of dignity and respect
and the rights of an individual are a problem in any organization. And
you know, this is something that we do not condone. This is something
that we very aggressively tackle when the allegations surface, whether it's
sexual harassment or actual crimes. And I could not tell you right off the top
of my head how many have occurred here in the last year. I think we've
got those numbers and we can provide those numbers to you in terms of actual
sex crimes, sexual harassment and those details. We can provide that to
you.
Sir?
Q [Through interpreter.]: (Name and affiliation
inaudible.) What you said about the Iranian issues. As I heard that
you said there is no capability of control of the -- having the Iranian pilgrims
to come into the country, and you said that there is no specific agreement between
Iraq and Iran indicating that. So in fact, there is an agreement between
Iraq and Iran indicating the -- allowing the pilgrims, or 5,000 Iranians into
the country. So how can you -- just give us your opinion about that.
Five thousand Iranians.
Sanchez: How can I give you my opinion about
what?
Interpreter: About the agreement. They
say --
Sanchez: About the agreement, lack of agreement,
the 5,000, or what?
(Pause.)
Q [Through interpreter.]: Regarding the agreement,
you just told us that there is no agreement between the Iraqis and Iranians
indicating or implementing the fact that there is a permission of 5,000; every
month, 5,000 Iranian pilgrims can enter the country. So is there such
agreement or there isn't?
Sanchez: No, okay, I understand the question.
To my understanding, there is no agreement.
Yes, sir?
Q: Thank you, sir. [Continues through interpreter.]
By he name of God, Allah hu Akbar. From Al-Sawa (ph) newspaper.
Salaam aleikum. As being the commander in chief of the military divisions
in Iraq, there is a very saddening campaign against antiterrorism in Iraq.
Do you have an idea of these figure of the member of the terrorist insurgents,
or at least you give us your idea, roughly, about the number, or
you don't know anything about that number of the terrorists that are present
in Iraq?
Sanchez: Well, I wouldn't say that I don't know
anything about the number. In terms of the actual number of terrorists,
it's pretty difficult to pinpoint them because they're moving back and forth
through both borders -- in the Syrian and in the Iranian border. We also have
some homegrown terrorists in Ansar al-Islam, Ansar al-Sunna, and the ability
to be able to establish their support base and their actual size is pretty difficult.
So I couldn't give you a number right off the top of my head that would be based
on clear logic and, besides, it probably wouldn't be smart for me to give you
a number at this point.
Yes, sir?
Q: (Inaudible.) -- a Japanese newspaper.
There is still some of the coalition forces while they are making their raids
they are practicing some improper ways for not taking into consideration the
Iraqis' traditions. So they are just -- the ways they are taking what
they are -- the ways they are making their raids, they never have any respect
for the Iraqi families. So have you just got any procedures or have you
taken any procedures regarding respecting the families when they're making --
or respecting the tradition of the Iraqi families making their raids?
Sanchez: Yes, I think we all understand that
this has been a continuing battle for the last 10 months and we have made significant
improvements. We have significant command emphasis on the conduct of our
offensive operations and our raids to ensure that we are protecting the dignity
and the respect of the coalition -- or correction, of the Iraqis that the coalition
is engaging with when we conduct our offensive operations. We are reemphasizing
that during this period where we're transitioning this entire force, and we'll
continue to do that. And we do, in fact, have Iraqis that are helping
us to ensure that we clearly understand what our training programs ought to
be to be able to let all the soldiers know what the sensitivities are.
And there are a lot of lessons that we learned last summer that we will have
to ensure are passed on to the forces that are coming into the country that
have not had the experience here in Iraq. So we'll continue to work that.
Yes, sir?
Q: (Name inaudible.) -- for the Arabiyan channel.
Can you please tell us about yesterday's incident; if you released anything
about the fall off a U.S. plane, whether it's because a technical failure or
because a fire -- an enemy fire? And if it is by technical failure, why
every time we hear about such incidents?
Sanchez: I'm not sure I understood the last part
of your question. What -- why do you hear about what incidents?
Q: Why every day we hear such -- we hear about
such incidents, that there is a technical failure and --
Sanchez: Yeah. Okay. No, that's not
necessarily true. We have been very upfront in stating when our helicopters
have been shot down by enemy fire. We have very clearly stated that when
it has occurred. So that is not exactly right.
Yesterday what happened was, there was no enemy fire
yesterday, and that was a wire strike, as we understand it right now.
The helicopter hit some wires and wound up crashing and killing the two pilots.
But you know, we have absolutely no problem with telling
you when it is that we have lost a helicopter due to enemy fire, and we will
continue to do that.
Yes, ma'am?
Q: Christine Spolar, Chicago Tribune. Can
you talk about these 17 military personnel who have been, I guess, in detention
of some kind or suspended for a while, under investigation for mistreatment
of prisoners in Abu Ghraib?
And also, second, a not related question: When
you talk about the drawdown of troops here and how they were changing, are some
of those troops going toward the spring offensive in Afghanistan? And
can you indicate troop strength with that? Thank you.
Sanchez: First of all, on the 17 personnel that
have been suspended, they are suspended from their duties while we continue
to conduct the investigation. The investigation is not complete at this
point in time, and therefore I can't give you any more information than that.
But at the right time, once those investigations are complete and we've moved
forward with the judicial process or we've cleared those individuals, we will
make that public.
Clearly, it is very important for us to protect the
individual, the unit and the institutions. That's why it's important for
us to preserve the integrity of that investigation process and not discuss it
during this -- at this point in the investigation.
In terms of the drawdown of forces here in the country,
these forces are all returning to their home bases.
In the back, on the left.
Q [Through interpreter.]: Yasser (sp) from the
Free Iraq -- (Inaudible.). General, after they convert the sovereignty
to the Iraqis, who's going to determine the timetable for the coalition to stay
in Iraq? The new elected government or the present Governing Council?
Sanchez: Okay. The question is, who will
determine the timetable for the length of stay of the coalition here in the
country after sovereignty? Clearly, after sovereignty the responsibility
for making decisions here in the country will transition to some interim government
moving towards a duly elected sovereign government in the 2005 time frame. Those
are the bodies that will have the responsibility for determining how long the
partnership with the coalition forces will have to be sustained over time.
And we will be here as long as it takes for us to bring that security, and beyond
the 30th of June, it will be with the consent of the Iraqi people. And
we believe that there is consensus that at this point in time the presence of
the coalition forces is necessary to continue to ensure the stability and security
of the country both internally and externally.
Yes, sir? In the back. You, sir.
Q: (Name inaudible.) -- NHK. General, when
you mentioned that for the transfer of authority for the security, you judged
Iraqi forces to be capable and credible, could you elaborate on that point?
What does it mean that they are capable and credible? Is it going to be
a technical judgment or is it going to be a political judgment?
Sanchez: A what?
Q: A technical judgment or a political judgment.
Sanchez: Okay.
Q: And related to that, from a purely military
point of view do you think that June 30 is a bit hasty as a schedule?
Sanchez: First of all, on the credible and capable,
I think it's fairly straightforward. The "capable" aspect of
the coalition -- correction -- of the Iraqi security forces is fairly straightforward:
are they able to conduct the missions independently that they have been assigned?
The police, as an example: can they ensure law and order in a city in coordination
with the other Iraqi security forces that may be operating in that city, independently,
or in coordination with the coalition for missions that are above and beyond
want they were designed for? That's a very straightforward training, manning
and equipping determination that can be made.
In terms of the "credible" aspect, what we're
working towards is to make sure that we have Iraqi security forces that are
responsive to the civilian control, that are for the people, to protect the
society, and that we have those security forces that are respected by the population
as ensuring the rights and freedoms of the population. The "credible"
aspect, we will continue to work very hard with all the elements of the society
and internally with those security forces to build the right instincts.
In terms of opinions on June the 30th -- is it hasty, not hasty? I'll
tell you that it is. June 30th is the date. And that's what we're
moving to and that's what we're supporting as a coalition force.
Yes, ma'am?
Q: Lourdes Navarro, AP. There's been a
news blackout about Saddam Hussein and where he is and is he well, how's his
health, and anything related to him. Have you gotten any information from
him regarding weapons of mass destruction, regarding any of the points that
you are looking into? And it would be greatly appreciated if we can have
some information about where he is and what he's doing.
Sanchez: (Laughs.) Yes, ma'am, it sure
would be nice, wouldn't it? (Laughs.) One of these days we'll probably
be able to disclose a lot of that information at the right time at the right
place and under the right conditions. I think I can provide you some of
that. Okay? Health is good. No issues. And I think that's
about it. (Laughter.) As to where he is, he's under our custody.
Q: May I just follow up? (Laughs.)
Sanchez: Sure. (Laughs.)
Q: Because -- well, "health is good"
is great. But apart from that, when do you expect to hand him over for
trial? That surely isn't something that will compromise your security.
Sanchez: Right. That's still undetermined
at this point. There's still a lot of work that has to go on to determine what
the modalities will be for trials and working with the Iraqi people. And
in the meantime, he will continue to be in the custody of the U.S. as a prisoner
of war, and those determinations will be made in the future.
Q: Just one more thing. Is he -- (Laughs.)
-- sorry about this, but, you know -- he is the number one -- he was the former
leader of this country, which you have in control, and we have so little information
about what he's saying. Has he given you anything at all about weapons
of mass destruction? He should know presumably. Have you gotten
anything? Is he being cooperative at least?
Sanchez: He's in good health. (Laughs.)
Yes, ma'am?
Q: Hi, Rachel with NBC. A question about
female Iraqi detainees. I understand there are at least a hundred, if
not more. My question is what is their status right now? How long will
they be in detention? What's the process of them getting out?
Sanchez: Mm-hmm. Grossly exaggerated number.
As of yesterday we have less than 20 that are in custody. I can give you
-- I forgot the numbers. I looked at them right before I walked up here
in my office. I can give you those numbers.
There are a couple of them that are high-value detainees
that will remain in our custody over time until their fate is determined as
the result of the process we just discussed briefly. We have some criminals.
I think the number is about five criminal detainees that are females that are
in the custody of the Iraqi police. And then there's a number, I think
it's about 10, that are security detainees that are under the custody of coalition
forces.
Yes, ma'am?
Q: I just want to follow up. What will
happen with these detainees, not just the women but the men as well, after June
30th, when authority gets transferred?
Sanchez: That is an issue that we're in the process
of working our way through. Some of these -- clearly, there's different
categories of them. The latest number that we've got is over 13,000 total
when you look at all of the detainees that are across the country. Some
of them are criminals that are under the custody of the Iraqi police.
We have the 3,800 MEK that continue to be under our custody out at Ashraf.
You have the high-value detainees, and then you have, of course, the security
internees. Some of those in that security category are -- some of them
will become criminal detainees, some of them will be released and then some
of them will continue to be of value, that will be detained over time.
We are working through that process right now, and the end state on 1 July is
to be determined as we move forward in our discussions with the Iraqis.
Q: All right, one last -- will any of them be
transferred to Guantanamo, or is that --
Sanchez: I'm sorry?
Q: Will any of them be eventually transferred
to Guantanamo?
Sanchez: That's undetermined at this point.
All the way in the back?
Q: (Name inaudible.) -- German television.
I just have two questions. One is, just to clarify, you said the troops
that are being replaced are going home, to their home bases. That means,
for example, for the 1st Armored Division, they will be returning to Germany?
And the second question is, there has been reports in German TV that U.S. soldiers
deliberately shot at already-wounded Iraqi soldiers during the fighting action,
so that would probably violate the Geneva Convention. Do you know anything
about it and can you comment on that?
Sanchez: No, I -- on the second question, I have
no idea what you're talking about. If you had some specifics, we might
be able to take a look at it for you and give you some kind of follow-on information,
but that's just too broad for me to comment knowledgeably.
On the first part, the 1st Armored Division will go
back to Wiesbaden, okay; go back to my home. (Laughs.)
Q: Mine too.
Sanchez: Yours, too? Good. We need
to talk. (Laughs.)
In the back?
Q [Through interpreter.]: Hassan Mounouf (ph),
the news agency -- (Inaudible.). The visit of Mr. Rumsfeld, Secretary
of Defense, to Iraq, has he just formulated the main formation of the Ministry
of Defense? Has he -- was his presence for the purpose of setting up the
new Ministry of Defense, Iraqi, or was there any other purposes behind his visit?
Sanchez: Well, I don't have the specific task
and purpose of the secretary's visit, but it was to meet with key leaders of
the coalition, both military and the Coalition Provisional Authority. During
his time here he visited a police academy and he also visited some of the troops
here in Baghdad during the time that he was here. It was not a specific task
of coming into the country to establish the Ministry of Defense. That
is still being worked by the CPA and Ambassador Bremer.
Yes, sir?
Q: General, I wonder if you could tell us --
something we've heard a good deal about, but I'd like to hear your own estimate
of it -- how the shape of the war is changing and how much of a challenge, increased
or decreased, you find that? And related to that, what do you say to the
proposition that the failure, if that's what it proves to be, of the Iraqi political
entities to agree on the future political course beyond June the 30th could
leave the United States Armed Forces here in a difficult position of, in effect,
defending a government that might be at war with itself?
Sanchez: The first question is a lot easier than
the second one. (Laughs.)
The shape of the war today. What we are seeing
with the enemy is a decrease as a result of our focused operations post-Saddam,
where we were able to precisely target significant amounts of leadership and
strength of the former regime element opposition, to the point where I think
today we see them operating at the cell level and maybe some local synchronization
and coordination that may be going on, and working to try to reestablish some
sort of cohesiveness and direction above that. But we continue to precisely
target them, and I think we have disrupted them significantly in the course
of the last 60 days or so.
But what has happened, and it's very clear, is that
the terrorist elements of Zarqawi, Ansar al-Islam and the linkages to al Qaeda
have begun to take preeminence in the actions that are being conducted against
the coalition and all of its different aspects. The terrorist effort continues,
even more focused today at trying to split the coalition. That is what
is manifesting itself -- that element of the strategy is what is manifesting
itself when we see the very focused attacks against the police, against the
new Iraqi army, against the Civil Defense Corps and against the governing --
political figures that are working with the coalition to reestablish the country.
This will continue.
I think the Zarqawi letter is fairly robust in laying
out the strategy that they're following. And they believe that they are
at a critical stage. And the way that they can disrupt the move towards
democracy and freedom and economic prosperity for this country is by creating
ethnic strife and hopefully taking the country into civil war.
We are very focused on that. We are engaging
with all elements of the society and ensuring that they clearly understand that
this country has to stay united as a single Iraq, federalism is probably their
best option, and that democracy is a worthwhile goal.
And I'm glad to say that just about all -- no -- well,
all of the elements that I have had conversations with are committed to one
Iraq. And that's very good news, because even though there is a lot of
challenges still ahead in the political arena, I think, in the end, we will
succeed in having a clear way ahead for the future of the country.
Is it possible that the country could move to civil
war and the coalition forces find themselves trying to separate ethnicities?
It's possible, but I don't think at this point it's likely.
Yes, ma'am?
Q: Hi. (Inaudible name) with U.S. News
and World Report. With regard to the terrorist elements in the country currently,
is there a plan for what's to be done with the PKK up north?
Sanchez: The answer is yes. (Chuckles.)
There is a plan, and we continue to work with all interested parties on the
way ahead with the PKK. That's about the extent of the comment I could
make on the PKK at this point.
Q: Can you give me any idea of timeline for the
plan?
Sanchez: There is a plan. (Chuckles.)
Yes, sir? On the right.
Q [Through interpreter.]: (Inaudible.) -- from
the -- (Inaudible.) -- Kurdish. (Inaudible.) Can you explain to
me why the savages at -- was savage attacks against the Iraqis before and during
the visit of the U.N. team. And a lot of parts of the city, they say that
the coalition forces have a hand in that, have in the attack, especially the
one against the police station. Especially there's some people who the
Americans -- they said -- they expressed themselves that they work for the press.
Sanchez: I don't know how clear I can be, that
the U.S. and the coalition has no hand whatsoever in conducting attacks against
Iraqis and against the police and other Iraqi security forces. It just
doesn't happen.
Yes, sir?
Q [Through interpreter.]: (Name inaudible.) --
Al-Iraqiyah Television. Do you have the intention to release another member
of ex-regime elements just like -- (Name inaudible.) -- who has been in your
custody under the coalition forces? Do you have any intention to release
some other elements of the ex-regime people? Specifically, those
who are under the list, the list of the 55 wanted -- top wanted people.
Sanchez: To the second part of the question on
the 55, absolutely not. I think I described just a while ago what the
process will be for them to get properly tried and the hand-offs that will have
to occur between the coalition and the proper authorities that are determined
in coordination with the Iraqi people and the coalition.
In terms of general release of detainees, we are in
the process, as I highlighted earlier, of going through a daily review of the
detainees that are in our custody -- security detainees -- to determine whether
we need to keep them in custody, or whether we need to go ahead and release
them. And we are -- we have released at this point almost 300 detainees
to guarantors. We have another about 250 that have been linked up with
guarantors to be released in the coming weeks. And we continue to very
aggressively move to draw down those numbers.
Yes, sir?
Q: General Sanchez, in case the sovereignty has
been handed over to the Iraqis according to the exact date and according to
the agreement with the Iraqi government, and in case that the Iraqis were not
capable to take over this responsibility, will there be any agreements taking
place between the coalition and the Iraqis for a period of 10 years that will
indicate the presence of the -- that will approve the presence of the coalition
forces for another 10 years until everything will be settled and the Iraqis
will be capable enough to take the responsibility or to be handed over the sovereignty?
So in case the sovereignty hasn't been handed over in the exact time, what will
be the other option? Is it true that there is another option for that?
Sanchez: The position of the United States and
the coalition at this point is that sovereignty will be handed over on the 30th
of June. I don't know of any 10-year deal that is out there.
Yes, sir?
Q: Ned Parker from AFP. I was wondering,
it seems the last month there have been more casualties -- Iraqi casualties
than any other month since the U.S. forces, coalition forces arrived here. Does
that mean that -- if the terrorist threat is preeminent, does that mean that
they're deadlier than what came under Saddam? How do you explain the fact,
if engagements are less and the security situation is better, that more people
are dying?
The second question is just, where do you think Izzat
Ibrahim al-Douri is now? Do you think he's in country, or is it possible
he left?
Sanchez: On al-Douri, we continue under the assumption
that he is in the country someplace.
Q: (Off mike.)
Sanchez: About as close as I was on the 12th
of December in catching Saddam. We chase him every day. Okay?
And we will get him.
Q: I think before, in December, you thought he
was a major -- in November he was described as a major player in the resistance
and making an alliance between, I guess, former Ba'athists and potentially foreign
fighters. Do you still feel that he's playing a role like that, or even
does he have ties with Zarqawi in any way?
Sanchez: I don't have anything to indicate that
there's a linkage to Zarqawi at this point. I believe that with the very focused
offensive operations that we have conducted, as I stated earlier, we've disrupted
the leadership structures of the former-regime elements. I believe that
al-Douri is definitely on the run. He knows that since we have shown very
clearly our ability to track him down and kill him or capture him, that he's
next, and we're relentless, and that we're going to get him -- unless he dies
first.
On the first question, how do we explain more people
dying, I think that's fairly straightforward. As I described earlier,
it's the terrorist element that is focusing the Iraqi people. It's focusing
people that are defenseless. The attack on Assassin's Gate killed Iraqis
that were going about their daily lives, moving around the city. The attack
at the new Iraqi army recruiting station killed Iraqis that were lining up to
serve their country. And the killing of ICDC, police and political servants
of the country are -- those are individuals that are not out here fighting like
we are every day, prepared to engage, especially those civilian servants and
political members.
So how do I explain that more people are dying and
there are less engagements? It's that there is a terrorist element that
has focused on the Iraqi people and trying to kill them and keep them from achieving
their vision of security and stability and democracy and freedom and economic
prosperity, that's how I explain it. They have -- we have shown them very
clearly that we are prepared, the coalition forces, and more and more every
single day the Iraqi security forces are getting capable and credible enough
to be able to defeat them, and therefore they've got to strike to discourage
that during these initial phases as we ramp up their capabilities. That's
why we will continue to continue to see this type of violence.
I'll take one more question, please. Yes, sir?
Q: General, you said something elliptical about
Izzat Ibrahim al-Douri. Unless he dies first, do you have information
from Mr. al-Douri's family, who we know -- some of whom have been detained,
that the illness from which he was suffering when he visited Vienna a couple
of years ago is advanced?
And in connection with that, a much broader question.
It's only about a year ago that we sat in this room, listening to Mr. al-Douri
telling us how the American Army would suffer defeat at the gates of Baghdad.
I wonder if you'd like to tell us now, a year on, as one of the officers who
planned that operation, some of your reflections on how it went, how much more
difficult it proved, perhaps, than had been intended? And what do you
think people in the war colleges will be saying about the American military
effort here when it passes into history?
Sanchez: The first part, no, we don't have anything
definitive from the family that would give us any indication that he's near
death. However, we do know that he's got significant health problems.
That's why I made this statement.
I think what history's going to show is that the coalition
and the American military clearly was the best war-fighting force that has ever
been fielded. It is a force -- the coalition service members and the American
soldier, sailor, airman and Marine -- is a flexible, agile, ferocious, compassionate
warrior that can adapt very rapidly across the entire spectrum of conflict.
They are capable of fighting in a high-intensity conflict environment, achieving
victory and then taking care of the defeated.
We have clearly shown that we have made and are capable
of making tremendous strides in the rebuilding of a country that had been neglected
by a dictator and oppressed by Saddam Hussein for over 30 years. And we've
been able to restore freedom, some semblance of a better quality of life and
economic prosperity that continues to grow every day in remarkably short period
of time. And oh, by the way, in a little bit over a year, we will have
restored sovereignty to the country. It will be remarkable case study
in what a powerful, benevolent army can do.
Thank you all very much.
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